Posts by A Paduan

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"Partial knowledge", "partial prophesying" - What does it mean?

by bjc2read in

at 1 corinthians 13:9, 10, the apostle paul said this: "for we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially; but when that which is complete arrives, that which is partial will be done away with.".

my question is this: what do you think paul was referring to when he said that the "knowledge" that first century christians possessed was 'partial' and the "prophesying" that they were doing was to be considered 'partial' also?.

any thoughts?.

A Paduan

He must have meant the deficit in knowledge that the wtbts would come to fill - all that complete food that the wtbts would come to provide.

seriously - don't ya'll believe me ?

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Out of the mouths of babes

by mrsjones5 in

this morning at the breakfast table my eight year old daugther asked if my mother went to church.

i told her yes and they call it a kingdom hall.

my oldest son (he's twelve) pipes in "yeah, it's a boring place.

A Paduan

There was a jw that abused my family, and my 5 year old son who was present heatedly told the jw that he wouldn't even know what one plus one was - the jw looked at me stating incredulity that I didn't discipline my small child - I on the other hand thought it quite astute for a 5 year old - and apt.

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Repartee for "Jehovah Will Take Care of It"

by Inquisitor in

i really hate it when my folks use the line: "leave it to jehovah.

he will take care of (insert organizational failure here).

we just do our part.

A Paduan

Wait on Jehovah = that's where our doctrines seem to come to a cliff edge

Wait on Jehovah = it would seem we will be shown up as wrong or sinful if we explore that any further

Wait on Jehovah = that person is too wealthy, powerful, well known or otherwise important to strongly discipline

Wait on Jehovah = he's our friend because he obeys and supports the content of our minds, so we won't discipline him

Wait on Jehovah = it appears that to help them would require money or effort with no evident return

Wait on Jehovah = I'm too busy now

Wait on Jehovah = if we helped you we would be exposed to potential loss

Wait on Jehovah = if you don't agree with us we don't think you deserve our help

Wait on Jehovah = we need to save face, so we will marginalise all mention of that

Wait on Jehovah = looks like I've been wrong but I'll continue because I've already invested so much in this deal

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Why do Jehovah's Witnesses churches have no windows?

by Kenneson in

jw
friends

someone asked columnist phillip milano of the jacksonville, florida times union this very question.

you will find remarks of several individuals and the reasons they offer, ranging from deterrence to vandalism, to saving on air conditioning bills, etc.

even j.r. brown gives his two-cents worth and replies to critic paul blizzard.. http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/080106/enm_4104779.shtml

A Paduan

So they won't see the bloodstreaked hands and faces of the damned against the windows during the 'big A'

mwahahahaha !

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Meddling mother

by meems1000 in

i've posted a few times on this site but really just like to read the posts.. i wanted to know if anyone can tell me about a book for teens that the dubs have.

my mother gave it to my 13 year old son and i'm really angry.

i have made it very clear i want nothing to do with those people and do not want my children exposed to it.

A Paduan

she's not active anymore

and even lied to me when i asked if it was a JW book

she decides she is right and has done nothing wrong
they are not even allowed to say grace the way we say it when she's around

certainly sounds active

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A couple at the door

by A Paduan in

a couple at the door just offered me (held out a pamphlet within 20 cm of me) "a personal invitation" to "a convention, as are being held around the world".

of course i declined - and thought, 'what was personal about that?

they're mass produced, handed to anyone who'll take it, there's no name on it (e.g.

A Paduan

The personal part comes in if they lingered awhile to chat with you and exchange names.

It was basic, no names, no discussion, but I did have my space invaded by an outstretched hand holding a pamphlet up close to me such that I needed to keep my hands to my side not to accept it - I found that personal - a less informed and more courteous person would most likely have accepted it from their hand. Indeed this angers me.

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A couple at the door

by A Paduan in

a couple at the door just offered me (held out a pamphlet within 20 cm of me) "a personal invitation" to "a convention, as are being held around the world".

of course i declined - and thought, 'what was personal about that?

they're mass produced, handed to anyone who'll take it, there's no name on it (e.g.

A Paduan

A couple at the door just offered me (held out a pamphlet within 20 cm of me) "a personal invitation" to "a convention, as are being held around the world".

Of course I declined - and thought, 'what was personal about that?'

They're mass produced, handed to anyone who'll take it, there's no name on it (e.g. mine), they're going door to door - so what's personal about it ?

I am thinking that lying is natural to their speech.

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Should we be concerned?

by 2112 in

i was just thinking that there maybe a dark future ahead.. i hope i am way off but you never can tell.

we have all seen a lot of talk recently about the end is near, etc.... yes, i know they have always said it.

but they were never in this bad of shape, shrinking membership and funds.

A Paduan

I was just thinking that there maybe a dark future ahead.

Who thinks like that ?

This is a very serious effect of the conditioning you have received - indeed your dark time is all around you, because you have been taught that.

Is that what it is to be a child ? (become like children)

Others are playing in the sun, rich, poor, healthy or not - but those influenced in jwism are in the 'dark future' in their minds - I believe it's an American thing too - all that bad news and terrorism things; a lot of conditioning there.

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Should we be concerned?

by 2112 in

i was just thinking that there maybe a dark future ahead.. i hope i am way off but you never can tell.

we have all seen a lot of talk recently about the end is near, etc.... yes, i know they have always said it.

but they were never in this bad of shape, shrinking membership and funds.

A Paduan

I was just thinking that there maybe a dark future ahead.

Gee, you wouldn't be jw would you ?

Maybe you could do more for them, and then you'd be ok.

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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 30-07-06 Church Sermon

by scout575 in

"for as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that noe entered into the ark, and knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the son of man be.

" ( matthew 24:38,39 ).

"and spared not the old world, but saved noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly.

A Paduan

"For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." ( Matthew 24:38,39 )

The Son of man brought water, and many knew not, until they were overcome

"And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly." ( 2 Peter 2:5 )

The Son of man also brought in a flood upon the world of the ungodly

"For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water. Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished." ( 2 Peter 3:5,6 )

Like Peter says "willingly are ignorant"

NT believes in and condones the OT story of God drowning the entire population of the earth except Noah and his family.

That's what you understood